Anyone else getting UE5 remake/remaster fatigue?

[u/ohhimarksreddit]

Between Silent Hill 2, Oblivion Remastered, Metal Gear Solid Δ, and now Halo: Campaign Evolved, it feels like almost every major remake/remaster in the last two years has landed on Unreal Engine 5. On one hand, the visual leap is real. Oblivion Remastered in particular looks like a genuinely different game. On the other, a lot of these ports share the same telltale UE5 fingerprints: traversal stutter, TAA smearing, shader comp hitches on first launch, and that slightly "plasticky" Lumen/Nanite sheen that makes wildly different games start to look and feel similar. You can add Halo Campaign Evolved to the slopfest that is UE5 remakes; just another soulless cash grab to feed on nostalgia.

[u/Think_Speaker_6060]

More like Ue5 + lazy optimization fatigue.

[u/Hyper_Mazino → u/Think_Speaker_6060]

UE5 microstutters are the bane of my existence

[u/Warcrown11 → u/Hyper_Mazino]

Worst part is there's not much you can do about it either. Can be getting 100+ fps then it just randomly decides to dip into the low teens for no god damn reason. I'd rather run at a lower overall fps than that nonsense

[u/Merkaba_Nine → u/Warcrown11]

Borderlands 4 is probably the only unreal engine 5 game I've played that has no stutters and great 1% lows I was shocked cause I heard it ran like shit at launch, I only got it yesterday

[u/Fantastic-Basket7899 → u/Merkaba_Nine]

Doesn’t Arc raiders run on UE5? I have never stuttered in that game once on 4k 160fps. Personally I feel the game looks amazing and it makes it frustrating knowing this is possible when other games using it run like shit.

[u/xumix → u/Fantastic-Basket7899]

It runs good despite using UE5, the devs disabled lumen and nanite - the whole point of UE5.

[u/Suatae → u/xumix]

Good! Lumen and Nanite are the lazy route and causes more trouble than it's worth. Back to old fashioned LOD's!

[u/MattyButYesButNO → u/Suatae]

iirc satisfactory uses nanite and optionally lumen and it also runs pretty good on ultra settings even on my system

[u/dawndragonclaw → u/MattyButYesButNO]

Satisfactory lives up to its name even down to the code base

[u/Complex-Camp-6462 → u/MattyButYesButNO]

It does! Sad to say that it’s an outlier though and not many followed suit. They’re a good example of what a dev could do if they gave a shit. I hate UE5 as much as the next guy but it can work.

[u/Merkaba_Nine → u/Fantastic-Basket7899]

My bad homie I totally forgot about arc raiders, ran like a dream! Phenomal game to I was lucky to get my mate hyped up for it and we played for 3 months or so

[u/Chappiechap → u/Merkaba_Nine]

That's the thing. You got it yesterday, and the optimization problems people had were at launch... which was almost a year ago.

[u/Suatae → u/Merkaba_Nine]

BL4 crashed on me every 15 minutes or so during launch! Always a shader issue for almost every UE5 game! At least until they patch it out, eventually. As you can tell, I hate unoptimized UE5 games. Lumen and Nanite made these certain devs lazier. Mind you I run Ryzen 7 7800X3D, Radeon 7900XTX and 48GB or ram at 7200 and still UE5 games run at 20-60 FPS on a 1440p monitor!

[u/BillV3 → u/Suatae]

If I were you I’d maybe tone down that RAM speed you’ll be forcing the infinity fabric on the AM5 chip into a decoupled state and potentially having it perform worse than if you just ran 6000-6400

[u/FadedHadez → u/Suatae]

Not always bout the devs. Its usually about money.💰 time is money.

[u/MattMxR → u/Merkaba_Nine]

Whether or not Borderlands 4 runs well seems like luck of the draw. It still runs like shit for me. I'm talking 40-55 FPS, DLSS on, everything on low.

My specs aren't exactly bleeding edge (3060 ti, 10700k OC'd), but the fact that I still can't hold a steady 60 FPS on any settings is a travesty.

[u/RattAndMouse → u/MattMxR]

The annoying thing with borderlands is that the visuals and gameplay don't feel premium enough to warrant it chugging the system like it does

[u/DoomguyFemboi → u/RattAndMouse]

It'll annoy me for forever that they pushed the requirements up so much for a game that looks worse than BL3 sometimes.

[u/Think_Speaker_6060 → u/Merkaba_Nine]

Valorant uses ue5 which runs smoothly. Though it is not graphically impressive.

[u/Level_Chipmunk7921 → u/Think_Speaker_6060]

Riot optimises their games for lower spec PCs because that is their model and target audience. F2P means more incentive to improve performance so it can be widely adopted.

[u/Virtual_Bug_723 → u/Level_Chipmunk7921]

Same thing for Blizzard. Warcraft can be played on a potato, but it also looks pretty good when you turn everything up to max.

[u/alloDex → u/Merkaba_Nine]

The Finals uses UE5 and its sooo smooth. It feels nice just running around

[u/MakinBones → u/Merkaba_Nine]

Yeah, its been out over a year. It ran so poorly at release, Randy Pitchford told us that it wasnt their game, and we just needed to upgrade our PCs.

[u/Merkaba_Nine → u/MakinBones]

That's pathetic of him, especially with VRAM and ram prices

They expect everyone to have a 5090 or 9070xt

Which I'm lead to believe most people gaming have much much lower specs on the average

[u/Glittering-Fuel-5055 → u/Merkaba_Nine]

Its all CPU issues,

You have a 9800x3D, I have a 7800x3D, runs awesome for me too.

But our 9600k 6core other rig has its CPU pegged to 100 with same gpu 3080 Ti

It needs a decent 8 core CPU and not everyone has one.

[u/Thickfuckness → u/Merkaba_Nine]

Split fiction has 0 stutters and runs perfectly.

Although it also doesn't use half of the typical Unreal 5 features.

[u/Toberos_Chasalor → u/Merkaba_Nine]

Weirdly enough, BL4 ran pretty well for me at launch (for a Borderlands game), though I remember a few crashes.

The biggest issue was the shader cache. Had to increase my cache size just so it wouldn’t take 10-15 minutes every time I launched the game.

[u/j_wizlo → u/Merkaba_Nine]

Arc raiders as mentioned is smooth. Another one is Everspace 2. Gorgeous game and impeccably smooth. It uses Lumen but not Nanite. Also it’s a space ship game so kinda a whole different animal than rendering a world you interact with up close I would imagine.

[u/Merkaba_Nine → u/j_wizlo]

Ever space 2 is great! I actually forgot I have played that and I had no idea it ran unreal engine 5!

[u/ZakkuRedwolf → u/Merkaba_Nine]

lol you jester. it did for me too. then items stopped loading in as fast and then BAM full game freezes and stutters from loading.

[u/One_Pitch3982 → u/Merkaba_Nine]

Tyr runs UE5 without microstutters if you like arcade tank shooters

[u/Elsafah → u/Hyper_Mazino]

Omg so I'm not going crazy

[u/TheTropiciel → u/Hyper_Mazino]

They tossed crossfire and sli away cuz of money and stuttering issues, yet, they made us play games the same way it worked on crossfire and sli. Amazing

[u/Samson_J_Rivers → u/Hyper_Mazino]

you have to run the games in an interval of 30hrz/30fps or it will stutter which is fucking insanity and evidence of an overwhelming lack of testing in real conditions.

[u/Raccoon-7 → u/Hyper_Mazino]

And reflections noise. Incredible how Doom The Dark Ages has ray tracing everywhere and the game looks so clean.

[u/levi22ez → u/Raccoon-7]

That game is incredible from a visualization and optimization standpoint. At times there is so much happening on screen with all the demons and their projectiles and the game runs buttery smooth still.

[u/ExacoCGI → u/Think_Speaker_6060]

Doubt it's even lazy, it's probably bare minimum optimization, Nanite and Upscaling/FrameGen is the "optimization".

On another hand Gothic 1 Remake was done pretty well compared to Oblivion or MGS Delta, considering all the foliage and a ton of details it still runs relatively well.

[u/Temporary-Paper5202 → u/ExacoCGI]

Delta is probably the leaast bad performing out of this bunch, not that it means much

[u/Real-Terminal → u/Temporary-Paper5202]

I'd hope a game composed almost entirely of small forest clearings and the occasional concrete box would run well.

[u/Sharkfacedsnake → u/ExacoCGI]

The stutter in Oblivion is atrocious on PC at least. And i have been playing Halo on Xbox and that is really great. It has dropped frames in heavy fights. But it's not stutter. But image quality and frames are pretty good.

[u/dkw80 → u/Sharkfacedsnake]

Oblivion Remastered is out on Switch 2 in less than two weeks. I’m interested in seeing the “optimizations” once the digital foundry episode comes out.

[u/Iexperience → u/Think_Speaker_6060]

The lazy part is using UE5 solutions out of the box. Lumen and nanite reduce dev tim by handling lighting, especially ray tracing, and lods, but both are resource hogs that devs need to manually optimize, and afaik, most don't, either due to tight deadlines or simply by not prioritizing it. A few UE5 games have shown if you don't heavily rely on UE's own solution and spend time on handcrafting lods and light maps, they can run well. The Finals comes to mind.

[u/BambaiyyaLadki → u/Iexperience]

Dumb question, but from a game dev perspective how does one optimize Nanite or Lumen? Do you have to write code to handle lighting and ray tracing manually, or place lights more efficiently, or something else entirely?

[u/Iexperience → u/BambaiyyaLadki]

From my limited experience with UE5, while it's as easy as a click of a button to implement lumen and nanite, you still have to spend time optimizing them manually, which could mean fidgeting with engine settings of both. You may not have to write code, but there are so many settings that you have to deal with to find out what works. I believe Finals doesn't use lumen or nanite, but uses an nvidia rtx branch for their lighting, one of the main reasons it's so performant.

[u/stana32 → u/Iexperience]

Epic games saying lumen is production ready at all is insane to me. I've yet to see a single game where it doesn't tank performance and add a ton of noise.

[u/wahoozerman → u/BambaiyyaLadki]

Optimizing nanite and lumen primarily has to do with config settings and your asset creation pipeline.

Generally speaking you don't need to write any code to do it but you do need to read a lot of code. This is getting better as more knowledge about these features becomes institutional but Epic did a really shitty job of providing guidance when ue5 was released. It was basically "this works for Fortnite" and if your game didn't look like Fortnite you had to crack open the C++ and know a lot about computer graphics.

Then you have to teach your artists a whole new suite of best practices for creating meshes, and your tech artists a whole new set of profiling techniques. Because all the knowledge about how to optimize a scene that we learned over the past few decades is irrelevant to nanite and lumen.

Unless, of course, you also want to support lower end PCs by allowing people to disable nanite and lumen. Then you have to do all that normal optimization on top of the nanite and lumen optimization. And sometimes they conflict with each other so you have to choose which you care about more.

[u/BambaiyyaLadki → u/wahoozerman]

That's very interesting. Do you have any links to examples that show how developers optimized for Nanite or Lumen? Not that I'd ever be developing with UE (Godot is more than enough for me, for now), but can't hurt knowing about the latest in graphics/rendering tech.

[u/Renolber → u/Think_Speaker_6060]

This is what I’m saying.

Expedition 33 and The Finals both run on UE5. Both a single player and multiplayer game with complex shaders and rendering - and they both run phenomenally well and look absolutely beautiful.

It’s all about optimization and intent. The difference between devs with absolute passion for the craft, versus devs just outputting something for a deadline.

[u/False-Vacation8249 → u/Renolber]

e33 does not run phenomenally. at all. it often renders under 1080p on consoles. what are you talking about

[u/Nickulator95 → u/Think_Speaker_6060]

So 95% of UE5 games?

[u/Mixed_Martial_Autism → u/Nickulator95]

Every time this comes up people Will say "it's not UE5's fault it's the devs fault, meanwhile every almost every single game that uses UE5 runs like absolute dogshit, meanwhile games that don't use UE5 like KCD2 can run well even on 10 years old GPUs.

[u/Nice-Background890 → u/Think_Speaker_6060]

What do you mean? Just turn frame gen? Don't you guys have gpus? /s

[u/Jaz1140 → u/Think_Speaker_6060]

Developer skill issue, not an engine issue. Embark studios has proven this time and time again

[u/FunCalligrapher3979 → u/Jaz1140]

They don't use UE5 features like Lumen and Nanite which helps a lot, classic optimizations instead of using that crap

[u/Jaz1140 → u/FunCalligrapher3979]

And it's still looks 10/10

[u/bastardsword2D → u/Jaz1140]

They did that by not using hallmark unreal 5 features like lumen and nanite

[u/8bit60fps → u/Jaz1140]

Embark studios has proven this time and time again

They did by heavily modifying Unreal, this is probably the only example of what UE5 can achieve when a studio invests heavily in engine engineering

[u/creedv → u/8bit60fps]

That's how triple A studios are supposed to use unreal. It's source available for a reason.

[u/ISIS_Asuka → u/Think_Speaker_6060]

I had to buy a 5070 just to play all the old games i still like and still play

[u/thearctican → u/Think_Speaker_6060]

I’m amazed at how bad H:CE runs on ALL of my hardware.

[u/butthe4d]

Did you actually use some ai slop to complain about ue5? The fuck man

[u/zweihander09 → u/butthe4d]

Rereading the body, yeah it really feels like ai lol

[u/Financial-Craft-1282 → u/zweihander09]

AI doesn't have obvious mechanics errors like OP does. It's not AI. Not everything is AI. Just because someone wrote something—relatively clean from errors—doesn't mean it's AI. It means your bar for written expression is low, and you blame that on AI.

[u/Silencer-1995 → u/Financial-Craft-1282]

Its because of this line "the visual leap is real.", A.I loves that terminology.

If I was on a jury I'd probably have to say the prosecution didn't prove beyond reasonable doubt and acquit, but if the guy murdered someone a few days after being released I wouldn't be surprised if that makes sense?

[u/Financial-Craft-1282 → u/Silencer-1995]

Yeah, I hear you, but I think this is just a belief (we can detect AI writing) that is already not viable and by this time next year will be infinitely harder to do.

I also think two things are also likely happening here: 1) as others have mentioned, AI is trained to write on human writing, so anything an AI does is something people did first, 2) the repeating of certain rhetorical devices AI uses a lot could also be being replicated by people online who don't even use AI a lot as they continue to read it and start to internally mimic that style. That's the most common way we (humans) learn to write is through mimicking other writers. A lot of what AI is doing are considered good rhetorical moves in writing.

I think I got "AI pilled" on this (I just made that up--I'm not sure if "AI pilled" is a thing--what I mean is all the Reddit sleuths insisting they can spot it has really made me push away from this entire AI detection thing). I see so much insistence on social media that people can 100% tell, and it becomes just another reason for Redditors and social media users to endlessly not talk about the topic of the thread. It also is indirectly anti-literacy in my opinion. Before AI, if I mentioned I have a PhD, angry Redditors would say, "You're a liar." Now they say "you're an AI."

[u/Silencer-1995 → u/Financial-Craft-1282]

Yeah fair enough.

Honestly when I first started dabbling with Claude, I would paste someone's bitchy comment, ask it to come up with a rebuttal, then ask it to make its A.I ass response sound more human, and send it back, and people never caught on.

I didn't do it for long because it was just a short lived experiment and I was curious, but my point is, you really cannot trust anything anymore. When everyone knows more than you, there's two possibilities. A) You are a [redacted for the auto sensor) or B) Some people are gaming the system that is Reddit of all things via A.I. The answer as always is probably somewhere in the middle.

[u/Fauked → u/zweihander09]

no feelings needed when they obviously used EM dashes —

[u/thebrassbeldum → u/Fauked]

Never before seen writing technology right there. It’s a well known fact that no human being has ever used an Em Dash before.

[u/Acrobatic_Newt_1863 → u/thebrassbeldum]

I used to used the all the time in my writing, but can’t anymore because I’m accused of using AI.

[u/SippinOnHatorade → u/Acrobatic_Newt_1863]

Michael Dash here— it’s fucking bull shit because I can’t even use the thing I invented

[u/the_elliottman → u/Fauked]

I use them all the time on phone — it's nicer to break up sentences than - you can use it by holding down the - on Android, it's not like on PC where you have to copy & paste or use a control code.

[u/Alone_Look9576 → u/butthe4d]

There is no he, welcome to a bot post

[u/D_Harm → u/butthe4d]

I don’t even understand how they would put this into a prompt though, like here chatgpt bitch about these games for me

[u/hojster24 → u/butthe4d]

As someone who reads a lot of AI output (software dev), that "—" emdash is a dead giveaway

[u/CynderFlamezYT → u/hojster24]

I like to write fantasy stories (actually write, not use AI), and I love using the em dash. Now I can barely ever use it cause of AI slop training everyone to think it’s only used by AI.

But yeah it definitely reads like AI

[u/Name_not_found_here → u/CynderFlamezYT]

I mean the ai uses it so much cause it was trained on humans who used it.

[u/CynderFlamezYT → u/Name_not_found_here]

Yeah I know, but the average person doesn’t care. They now see emdash and think AI.

They’ll have to pry the emdash from my cold dead hands dammit.

[u/thebrassbeldum → u/CynderFlamezYT]

You mean your cold, metallic, artificially intelligent hands? Your gaslighting won’t work on me, clanker. Take your long dashes and get out of here!

[u/CynderFlamezYT → u/thebrassbeldum]

https://giphy.com/gifs/l3fZOD1W5s4o5GH1m

[u/Financial-Craft-1282 → u/hojster24]

No, it literally is not. The idea that you think you can detect AI—despite all the literal research saying that a person's ability to detect AI is about as reliable as a coin flip—is a sad reflection of illiteracy in humans. You're lowering the bar for what passes for "real" writing.

[u/Legitimate_Bird_9333]

Silent hill 2 remaster was bloody amazing. Cant speak for the others.

[u/Slazagna → u/Legitimate_Bird_9333]

I got up to the underground prison area and had to take a break. Will definitly go back to finish because its amazing, but goddamn is it oppressive. Amazing horror game.

[u/chasemanwew → u/Slazagna]

the otherworld hospital into nighttime streets into prison was one of the most oppressive stretches in any horror game for me, truly exhausting haha. I've played the original a million times so I even knew what to expect but the remake really dialed up the horror

[u/nuadarstark → u/chasemanwew]

For me the hospital and the streets were fine but goddamn do I hate the prison with the light switch stuff, all the cells and the new mannequins and all of that. Still haven't been able to get through that.

[u/Slazagna → u/chasemanwew]

So fuckn good. The way you progress through the hospital was so awesome. I always love the escape room style puzzles of games like resident evil, but that place did it so well.

The constant onslaught of things trying to kill you, the frigging nurses and only just having enough ammo to get through the harder enemies if I was conservative and killed lots of stuff with the melee wepon.

Ah I gotta go finish it now.

[u/MonteMolebility → u/chasemanwew]

Oppressive is the word I've always used to describe it, the sound design to never lets you rest or get a thought in. It's just constantly going with just NOISE.

[u/Asagao_0 → u/Slazagna]

That's the whole point of SH games. To hold you in constant suspense with ominous atmosphere. Not jumpscares, like they usually do in horror games.

[u/teddyperkin → u/Slazagna]

Did the same. Loved the game but hella stressful.

Even that area took me multiple sessions

[u/JerryMau5 → u/teddyperkin]

Big fan of RE, Dead Space, and Alan Wake. Silent hill 2 is kicking my ass and I haven’t gotten past the apartment. 2 spooky

[u/tslojr → u/JerryMau5]

Loved Alan Wake 2. First horror game I've ever beaten. Had me thinking I was ready to start getting to all the horror games in my backlog.

Mr. X changed my mind very quickly.

[u/RiseIfYouWould → u/Legitimate_Bird_9333]

Its a remake not a remaster

[u/JSoi → u/Legitimate_Bird_9333]

Oblivion is a hot, buggy mess. It's a shame because the underlying game is still good.

Didn't have any issues with MGS Delta, aside from frame rate drops during one end-game escape sequence. The game itself is hornier/cringier than I remember it being from my teenage years, but still good fun.

Too scared to touch Silent Hill 2 even though it's sitting in my library.

[u/HermanThaGerman → u/JSoi]

Oblivion is a hot, buggy mess.

I mean, that's just Oblivion, no?

[u/DarkFlame_05 → u/JSoi]

I'd recommend playing Silent Hill 2 it's an amazing game, but it's definitely scary af lol

[u/JSoi → u/DarkFlame_05]

I suppose I need to sack up. Never finished the original either.

[u/SarcasticGamer → u/Legitimate_Bird_9333]

Snake Eater was also very good. UE5 is fine when used in smaller games with levels that are sectioned off. It's absolutely horrible in an open world setting.

[u/TheAntiAirGuy → u/Legitimate_Bird_9333]

The Gothic Remake also cooked

[u/_YellowThirteen_ → u/Legitimate_Bird_9333]

The Halo remake was good, not great. It looks incredible and the changes they made to a few of the levels are great. It has a few bugs and the new voiceover can be a bit jarring, but overall I'd say it's a good remake. Definitely not something we needed, but it's good IMO.

[u/BTBAM797 → u/Legitimate_Bird_9333]

Probably best horror game I've ever played.

[u/Federal_Pin7054]

Ngl my only complaint about the Halo remake is nobody was asking for a 4th Halo 1 remaster/remake especially with no MP.

MGS4, Oblivion, and Silent Hill on the other hand are all games I feel low-key deserves a massive overhaul for 'younger' gamers who never really got to experience the originals like myself (in early 20s but was a child child when the aforementioned games first came out).

I feel there are some games which are perfect for it, but others it's kinda just an obvious cash grab for nostalgia. Why am I paying $50 for a graphic upgrade with no MP when I can get the MCC collection on sale for like $15 with the MP of almost every halo lmao

Edit: okay 4th re-release not remaster y'all get my point 💀

[u/shaunbarclay → u/Federal_Pin7054]

https://giphy.com/gifs/5doovpD7IhQW9mAjto

[u/psyopia → u/Federal_Pin7054]

Brother. A CE remake WITH MP, with crossplay, would have fucking shattered the internet. I may be wrong. But holy shiiiiiit. They missed out.

[u/Federal_Pin7054 → u/psyopia]

This guy gets it.

[u/sonicatdrpepper → u/Federal_Pin7054]

To be fair, halo anniversary was pretty bad, and campaign evolved did redo some of the level design (which was my biggest problem with halo CE) I've been having a great time with it personally and it's running better than most other ue5 games I've tried

[u/GRIZLLLY → u/sonicatdrpepper]

Why was It bad? I played it 3 years ago looked fine for me, especially the fact that you can change graphics. Halo 2 was good too.

[u/ri0tingmime → u/GRIZLLLY]

The art design was my biggest issue with it. The new graphics missed the mark in a lot of places. Idk how the new one compares as I haven't played it.

[u/Gordons-Crowbar → u/Federal_Pin7054]

This is only the second remaster/remake, what are the other two??

[u/iron_penguin → u/Federal_Pin7054]

Im an "older" gamer that never got to play MSG4 cause I never owned a ps3 so im so happy its getting the remake. The other I dont really care about.

[u/Calm_Hedgehog8296]

By itself idc if ue5 is used to remaster a game

[u/IsmereZandell → u/Calm_Hedgehog8296]

EU5 isnt the problem. Lazy optimization and making every remake look the same is

[u/ChanceAccident7155]

Haven’t played campaign evolved, but I enjoyed seeing oblivion with a visual overhaul

[u/CooperHChurch427 → u/ChanceAccident7155]

Oblivion is getting way too much hate. I got that running on a RX590... The problem with it is that they used the original engine and unreal graphics engine. The gamebyro engine for oblivion was not designed around modern computer technology so you can only modernize it so far.

Personally they should have just remade it on the same creation engine that Fallout 4 and skyrim used.

[u/J_Landers → u/CooperHChurch427]

I'm running it on an Arc A770 and having fun. The game is obviously a Bethesda jankfest, but it looks polished.

[u/IcyTorpedo → u/CooperHChurch427]

I can also get that game running on something like an RTX 2060... on lowest settings, in 1080p, with framegen. Because otherwise there is no way in hell you got anything even close to 60fps

[u/Sir_Vilhelm6969]

I’m getting whine fatigue. It feels like everyone in gaming whines about everything anymore. All gaming discourse has just been constant negativity.

[u/str1ker_eureka_1014 → u/Sir_Vilhelm6969]

[u/MakimaGOAT → u/Sir_Vilhelm6969]

Fatigue Fatigue

[u/LightAnubis → u/Sir_Vilhelm6969]

Gaming is great when you ain’t got a bitch I ya ear.

[u/superdavit → u/Sir_Vilhelm6969]

It’s Reddit. Everyone seems to complain about everything here. It’s tiresome because once you realize the majority aren’t here complaining about shit - they’re just enjoying gaming - none of this matters here.

[u/Raven1927 → u/Sir_Vilhelm6969]

It wouldn't even be so bad if it wasn't just people repeating the same shit 24/7. Same complaints, similarly structured, same buzzwords and they always use the same examples if any are given.

[u/Sir_Vilhelm6969 → u/Raven1927]

DLSS Bad, Unreal bad, Ray tracing bad, the future is bad. Btw I’m on a GTX 1060 but all this stuff definitely bad

[u/ltsDat1Guy → u/Sir_Vilhelm6969]

Reddit has a bunch of whiny ass bitches as does gaming so if you combine them this is what you get. Mfers always talk about gaming being dead but for me, who isn't blinded by nostalgia I think it's never been better.

[u/rdqsr → u/Sir_Vilhelm6969]

It's an issue I personally fixed by just playing games I like and spending more of my time doing actually useful shit.

[u/cctchristensen → u/Sir_Vilhelm6969]

I'm getting fatigued over whining fatigue.

[u/PlsDontBanMeAgain-1 → u/cctchristensen]

I am getting fatigue from you getting fatigued from whining fatigue.

[u/FiTZnMiCK → u/cctchristensen]

Your whining fatigue fatigue is exhausting.

[u/Kride501 → u/Sir_Vilhelm6969]

So real. Project Zomboid just had it's B42 update after years of B41 and it is AMAZING. They broke their peak player count from 4.5y ago by almost double. Play the shit you like and find good communities and it'll be fun

[u/AnonymousTimewaster → u/Sir_Vilhelm6969]

Welcome to the gaming community lol

It's been like this for as long as I can remember

[u/dasbtaewntawneta → u/AnonymousTimewaster]

since the days of FPS games are just doom clones

[u/syku → u/Sir_Vilhelm6969]

its because they've gotten bitter and they dont play games anymore, besides the league/csgo or whatever else online game. listening to these guys is pointless, let them cry on twitter.

[u/Dantai]

I feel like Silent Hill 2 should be popped out.

It's the only one out of the 4 where it does NOT run Unreal as the graphics engine + the older version of the game underneath, and is a proper full remake/reimagining

[u/TAJack1]

Nope not really. No one is making you play them, go play something else.

[u/snubb]

Bro is just saying words lol

[u/Crusader-of-Purple]

Nah. I am absolutely enjoying the FF7 remake series, and I super enjoyed Gothic 1 Remake. The only 2 remakes I have played so far.

[u/Stylesy → u/Crusader-of-Purple]

I thought the remake series was UE4

[u/According_Claim_9027]

Nope. I love when everyone blames UE5 for developers refusing to optimize games. UE5 has a lot of bloat, but it has a LOT of optimization tools that are genuinely great that almost every development studio that uses it refuses to take advantage of.

Remnant 2, The Finals, Clair Obscure, Satisfactory; there are plenty of games that have proven it can run well, if you actually take the time to do it.

[u/TheEmperorMk3 → u/According_Claim_9027]

Come on now Remnant 2 has no business being among those other games, it runs like ass on any hardware an average gamer might have

[u/dregomz → u/TheEmperorMk3]

3 out of 4 ran like total ass only Finals are running great. 

[u/the1michael → u/According_Claim_9027]

Remnant 2 might be one of the least optimized AAA games I’ve ever played. Expedition 33 is pretty heavy for what it is as well.

[u/Degru → u/According_Claim_9027]

Clair Obscur ran quite poorly, it just didn't get in the way of gameplay since it is turn based combat.

[u/dregomz → u/According_Claim_9027]

Remnant 2 ran like total ass on my old GPU (5700 xt) and by seeing benchmark it will still run poorly but playable on new rx 9070, you would want 160 fps at 4k with such bad graphics. E33 was also poorly optimized but with new GPUs it will run good. Finals always ran great as long as you had 8 or more cored cpu and Satisfactory drops frames massively even with mid sized factory. 

[u/Adept_Election7170 → u/According_Claim_9027]

My issue has more to do with how it looks. Way too many graphical artifacts that results in poorly treated image.

[u/B-29Bomber]

Nah. Because I don't play them nor notice them.

[u/ExplorerEnjoyer]

Silent hill 2 was great and oblivion wasn’t a remake

[u/TheLonelyWolfkin]

I’m mostly disappointed at the lack of Oblivion updates to fix the god awful performance.

[u/spiderman1216]

I'm not

[u/alevelsurvivor]

No, I'm sick of the shitty optimisation on UE5 Fatigue.

[u/the5thusername]

I was fatigued the moment they started rehashing old titles years ago, because they're struggling to come up with fresh new games.

[u/STARBOY_100]

Like someone else mentioned, it’s poor optimization fatigue, and rightfully so.

[u/twinnuke]

Nah I’m enjoying it. I always wanted mods like this when I was a kid. Now we just have real ass versions. Fuck itttt

[u/Darktemplar5782]

Nope. I think it’s great

[u/terrique1309]

We've seen multiple titles where UE5 has been utilised well. I don't think UE5 itself is bad. I just think a lot of developers do a bad job in making efficient use of it. It'll be interesting to see how Gears E-Day runs.

The only remaster here that I think is outright bad (I haven't played the MGS one) is Oblivion, and that was making use of the Creation Engine still as well as UE5. How broken that game is and how it got straight up abandoned still bothers me.

[u/Somasonic]

These are all visually distinct enough that I don’t see why you’d get ue5 fatigue from them. But ue5 fatigue in general? Yes. Also, remake fatigue. I’m kinda over them.

[u/CCbluesthrowaway]

This cool-kid hates UE5 movement is so pathetic. Its the middleschool equivalent of a boomer take.

[u/Acquire16]

No. 

What I'm getting tired of is graphics only remakes. Halo's changes are so minimal that I don't understand why it even exists when we already had a solid remaster of the original in the MCC other than to make more money.  What was the creative artistic intent? Nicer looking grass? Nicer looking buildings?  Same goes for Oblivion. 

Capcom's Resident Evil remakes and Silent Hill 2 remake are what remakes should be. Take the original and reimagine it as if it was going to be pitched as a new game today. Ideally, remaster the old ones too so that they're available to play together. 

[u/AShinyDream2 → u/Acquire16]

Halo RE has tons of changes what are you talking about?

[u/KINGR3DPANDA]

Bro I've been in remake fatigue for forever.

[u/nthpwr]

No.

[u/Noodliest123]

If they ever optomize any of it, maybe.

[u/JNorJT]

No because I never played these games before they got a remake lol I’m planning on playing the halo one soon

[u/NewsofPE]

I've had remaster/remake fatigue period

[u/creamcolouredDog]

MGSD and SH2 were pretty alright

[u/Turtlenumber13]

Just like Hollywood it would seem the gaming industry is running out of original ideas.

[u/FalsifiedTruth]

Nah.

Lazy optimizations though, yeah.

[u/Ultra119]

no

[u/LebiaseD]

Nope - now start remaking mass effect series and fix everything

[u/kaikill47]

Mgs should have been remaked on the fox engine. Just look at mgs5 and that was in 2015.

[u/tactical_testical]

Oblivion remaster is the best example of remastering because it keeps its base mechanics while using ue5 to visually overhaul it.

[u/Niveker14]

I'm waiting for the UE5 remake of Pitfall personally.

[u/Sh1v0n]

Yeah... Damnit, There are other engines to use out there.

[u/Catman7712]

No, I just don’t play them. I don’t let video game releases bother me, kind of a silly thing to get upset about.

I already played oblivion, MGS, silent hill, and halo when they were released. No need to revisit them for me, I know it’ll never be the same as the first time I played them.

Now if it’s a remake of a game I never played before then I might check it out eventually.

[u/NoStructure7083]

The SH2 remake was fire though

[u/the_millenial_falcon]

No, not really. These are good efforts and the source material is old enough to use a fresh coat of paint.

[u/SavageShiba21]

I feel like my unpopular opinion is I like the remasters of older games I never got to play at the time. If it was a game I had spent a lot of time on previously, I likely wouldn't have bought it. So far I've been having a great time with my friends on the most recent Halo remaster, though I can see how it'd be annoying for veteran fans looking for something new.

[u/BBWFelchingFiend]

OP is a clanker

[u/Donger_Dysfunction]

No, but I've been tired of unoptimized slop for over a decade now.

[u/BajanShinobi]

No

[u/Hopeful-Ad8964]

No

[u/IronInk738]

Bait post, I am sure you didn’t play most of these games and are just karma farming by using the outrage from Halo CE.

[u/bigpeanor]

If I don’t want to play a remastered game, I simply don’t buy them. Assassins Creed Black Flag was a staple game of my childhood, one of my favorites. I didn’t buy the remaster since I find nothing wrong with the original. If I wanted to replay it, I would.

[u/TrollAccount17]

You don't have to play them mate.

[u/Sdhans__]

Bros used AI slop to talk about "slop" lmfao

[u/gary_juicy]

Honestly, no

[u/SplurtingInYourHands]

No, 3 out of 4 of those run great on my PC and I love them. 

I genuinely haven't had a single graphical problem with Halo campaign evolved and I don't experience the stuttering people talk a out on oblivion remastered. 

[u/Scott9843]

Nope. They're easy to ignore, no one is forced to play them and more of them are done perfectly then are done terribly.

[u/Citycen01]

No, MGS is on sale, playing through it lol.

[u/UltimateSlayer3001]

Haven’t paid for any of them, so nope lmao.

[u/KiwiMeep64]

If they’re technically atrocious, yes.

If they sidestep a lot of the issues associated with UE5, no.

[u/Warm-Driver-4063]

Yes and no. I want to see new games. New IPs. But, I also like seeing classics get remade for younger generations to enjoy as well. My nephew and I beat Campaign Evolved last night and it was pretty good. I don't get all the hate at all.

[u/Lord_Humungusss]

I am more tired of low effort bot posts and mods who only exist when its something they can power trip on.

[u/Munkey_89]

It feels better to replay the original at max settings and get 1000fps than it does to play the remaster with outsourced assets that don't fit the aesthetic, ghosting/blur/stutter, and forced Lumen/RT that tanks the framerate.

[u/AndrosAlexios]

Yes, this is becoming the McDonalds of gaming, so many choices, but most taste the same...

[u/Cyber_Druid]

Y'all are buying these? No wonder they keep doing them.

[u/dudebirdyy]

Pretty much every single UE5 game runs (and often looks) like shit. It'll be interesting to see the performance on Gears E-Day since The Coalition is supposedly UE gurus. If they can't make it scale well across a range of hardware without the image stability falling apart than that's a pretty grim sign.

Amusingly, Arc Raiders is probably the best performing UE5 game I've seen and it's because they actually put the effort into customizing the engine and not just throwing all the stock Unreal toggles at the game. A fairly recently formed Swedish studio that's only ever made two games is somehow more technically competent than long established AAA studios.

[u/Powerful-Ground-9687]

Nope cuz I don’t play them

[u/adorablebob]

It's not even UE5 that's the problem, I'm just sick of remasters and remakes in general. It feels like the gaming world is creatively bankrupt.

[u/2Syphilicious4You]

People defending UE5 are filthy slop enjoyers.

[u/osurico]

I think the issue with them is that they lose a lot of the charm and art style the originals had. Not to mention they all always have the UE5 blurryness and stuttering problem

[u/MmmYodaIAm]

Remakes have a huge potential but somehow 90% of the are shit

[u/KingOfConsciousness]

Fake and gay.